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Lange Pistole 08


General

The first test pieces of the Parabellum "Luger" pistol were produced in 1898 as a result of the collaboration between Hugo Borchardt and Georg Luger. The design was based on Borchardt's special toggle-locked pistol (Borchardt C/93). Georg Luger improved the idea and developed a smaller and more hand-fitting weapon. The weapon was manufactured in three different models, an army model (100 mm barrel length) i.e. Pistole P08, a navy model (150 mm barrel length) and an artillery model, i.e. Lange Pistole 08 (200 mm barrel length).

In Finland, the weapon has been and still is called artillery parabellum (tykistöparabellum), in English-speaking countries the weapon has often been referred to as 'Artillery Luger'. In the German army, this name "Artillerie-Parabellum" was known not known, but the weapon passed under its original name, Lange Pistole 08 or abbreviated LP.08.

Lange Pistole 08 Zoom

Lange-Pistole P.08 (LP.08)

In the early 1900s, the German Emperor Wilhelm II (Friedrich Wilhelm Viktor Albert von Hohenzollern, 1859-1941) participated in several hunting trips in the Schwarzwald forest (Black Forest), armed with a commercial long-barrel DWM Modell 1902 Pistolenkarabiner (Luger Carabine). Wilhelm II was fond of the long-barrel DWM Modell 1902 pistol because it was relatively light and easy to handle, compared to a hunting rifle, for example. On 3 June 1913, Emperor Wilhelm II personally accepted the long barrel version of the Parabellum P.08 pistol, Lange Pistole 08, as a weapon for artillery and flight crews. The Imperial Army shock troops (Stoßtruppen) were also equipped with this high fire-power weapon. However, far too small a number of these pistols were manufactured to have been produced for all those who needed them. In fact, a little surprisingly, the main users of the LP 08 pistols were the shock troops and infantry.

In 1913, the German army, authorised by the Emperor, commissioned a version of the Parabellum P.08 pistol from DWM (Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken AG), with a long barrel and removable stock (Lange Pistole 08).

Lange Pistole 08 equipped with 32-round drum magazine, Trommelmagazin 08 (T.M.08).

Structure

The metal parts of the gun (frame, barrel, lock and slide) are made of steel and the surface treatment is bluing. The grip plates with diamond-like roughening are made of walnut wood. The weapon is exactly the same as the standard Parabellum P.08, except for the barrel and sights.

The Lange Pistole 08 has a 200 mm long barrel with six right-handed rifling grooves on the inner surface. 9x19 Pb caliber barrel’s big caliber measurement is 9.08 mm and the small caliber measurement is 8.83 mm. The width of the rifling groove is 2.5 mm and the barrel wall thickness 2.4 mm. For barrel manufacturing the DWM used high-quality barrel steel from Böhler (Gebrüder Böhler & Cie, Vienna).

There were precise specifications for the steel quality of the metal parts of the Parabellum pistols (including Lange Pistole 08). The tensile strength of the steel had to be at least 85 kg/mm and if possible more than 95 kg/mm. General requirements for the metallurgical composition of steel were as follows;

  • 1. Carbon, not exceeding 0,7 %
  • 2. Manganese, 0,65 %
  • 3. Silicon, 0,45 %
  • 4. Copper, 0,11 %
  • 5. Sulphur, 0,035 %
  • 6. Phosphorus, 0,42 %
  • 7. Tungsten, not more than 2,1 %

The roughened grip plates are made of walnut. The grip plates are attached to the handle frame with two steel screws.

The Lange Pistole 08 pistol has an eight-round single-stack magazine made of stamped steel sheet metal. The magazine was nickel plated. The baseplate of the magazine was usually made of walnut wood, but bakelite and aluminium have also been used as a material for the baseplate. The weight of the empty magazine is about 55-60 grams.

The Lange Pistole 08 has two versions, an old model (Alter Art) and a new model (Neuer Art). In practice, the only difference between these versions is the shape of the trigger bar (Abzugsstange), in the new model it is slightly shorter. At least the 1916-model pistols already had a newer model trigger bar.

With the supplied guns came: a leather holster, harness, wooden stock, 25.4 cm long cleaning rod with wooden handle, charging tool/screwdriver, three magazines and a dual magazine pouch.

Tangent rear sight

The front of the pistol chamber is fitted with an eight-step adjustable tangent-type rear sight. The rear sight was adjustable, in eight steps from 50 meters, up to 800 m. However, the lateral fine adjustment of the front sight was abandoned in 1917, when production was simplified. Later, the fine height adjustment for the rear sight was also abandoned.

Adjustable tangent sight, pictured from right side (fine height adjustment in the sight).


Adjustment for the rear sight

Distance Angle Calculated height
  50 m 0° 19’ 45” 18,13 mm
  100 m 0° 28’ 30” 18,58 mm
  200 m 0° 19’ 45” 19,63 mm
  300 m 0° 12’ 45” 20,87 mm
  400 m 1° 41' 22,32 mm
  500 m 2° 14’ 24,01 mm
  600 m 2° 52' 40" 25,97 mm
  700 m 3° 37’ 45" 28,23,01 mm
  800 m 4° 31' 30,85 mm
       

On 4 November 1913, the Prussian Ministry of War (Preußische Infanterie-Konstruktion Bureau I.K.B. Spandau) approved the Prussian Infantry Gun Committee plan for Lange Pistole 08 rear sight.

Wooden shoulder stock (LP.08)

From 1913 onwards, the Parabellum P.08 pistols were machined a shoulder stock attachment lug at the heel of the pistol frame (Der Schulterstück). The stern board mounting groove was also machined into all Lange Pistole 08 handles.

The shoulder stock is 335.5 mm long, 15.0-23.15 mm thick and the weight is 275 g. The shoulder stock is difficult to carry with, but on the other hand, the gun's hit accuracy is significantly improved. According to one estimate, the hit accuracy will improve by 10-50%, depending on the shooter. The shoulder stock also retracts the weapon's recoil and thus it is faster to shoot next aimed shot. The same serial number was placed on the metal mounting piece of the shoulder stock as the weapon itself. The LP.08 shoulder stock is similar to other Parabellum pistols, with the exception of five pre-drilled holes for the screws in the leather case, on the left side of the shoulder stock.

Lange Pistole 08 (LP.08) wooden shoulder stock

Drum magazine – Trommelmagazin 08 (T.M.08)

Friedrich Blum, who lived in Budapest, developed a drum magazine for artillery parabellum (Trommel-Magazin 08), in 1916. Friedrich Blumm's patented drum magazine holds 32 pcs of 9x19 Pb cartridges. The magazine was manufactured by three factories, AEG, Bing and Pelzer Co. From 1917 to 1918, about 725,000 drum magazines were manufactured. The drum magazines had to use bullets with a round-headed bullet, as the conical-headed bullets caused misfeeds. A separate loading device was used to load the drum magazine. » read more

32-round drum magazine, Trommelmagazin 08

Leather holster, magazine pouch and carrying strap

A leather holster for the artillery parabellum was made for transporting and storing from a brown or a black leather. Wooden shoulder stock could be attached to the leather holster with mounting straps and five screws. The leather strap of the leather holster could be attached with a magazine pouch for two magazines. Leather holsters were usually marked with manufacturer's information on the underside of the flap. Behind the leather holster, the abbreviation and weapon number of the troop unit, for example 52.R.11.9, were placed behind the leather holster. This example entry means; The 52. Royal regiment, the 11th Company and its ninth pistol.

Langer Pistole 08 leather case and two magazine pouch

A few leather holster manufacturers;

  • Ledermanufaktur Zimmerman, Halle
  • Eugen Huber, AWM, München, 1915
  • F.W. Kinkel, Mainz, 1917
  • Hans Deuter, Augsburg
  • Mars Fabrik für Militar-Effekten, München, 1915
  • Reinhold Spitz, Militär-Ausrüstungs-Fabrik, München
  • Schneider Briegl, 1917
  • Emil Steinmetz, Breslau, 1916–1917

In addition, the pouches for the two magazines carried with the leather holster were made by At least Bruno Wiedermann (Berlin), Kern Kläger & Cie (Neu-Ulm) and F.W. Kinkel (Mainz).

The first series of the Lange Pistole 08 pistols were equipped with wooden holsters made by AWM (Artillerie Werkstätten München), the same type as the Mauser C96 and Mauser m/1916 pistols (Ukko-Mauser). These LP.08 wooden holsters are very rare nowadays, as these so-called “first series” guns were manufactured only about 50.

LP.08 at war

The weapon was originally intended for the imperial German army field artillery, fortress troops and pilots. The weapon has been used with a drum magazines, even in the air battles of the First World War. It was later distributed to the machine guns crews. Before the introduction of early submachine guns, the German assault troops (Sturmtruppen) were armed with artillery parabellum, since 1915. When the assault troops were deployed with these guns, the effectiveness of the weapon came to light.

Pistole 08 remained in use by the German army during the Second World War, albeit to a very limited extent. Thousands of Lange Pistole 08 pistols remained in German warehouses at the end of World War I. During World War II there was a shortage of pistols, so they were also re-introduced. The weapon was used with certainty at least in 1944, during the Battle of Anzio.

Production

The Long barrel Parabellum (Lange Pistole 08) was manufactured in Germany by two factories; Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken AG (DWM), Charlettenburg in Berlin and the Prussian State Weapons Factory, Erfurt Gewehrfabrik.

The first 50 test weapons were manufactured by DWM between 1912 and 1913. The weapon proved to be excellent in the tests. In 1913, the German navy ordered 75,000 Lange Pistole 08 pistols. The serial manufacturing was started by Erfurt, but after 23,000 weapons were manufactured, the production was transferred to DWM, which had better resources to produce the ordered number of weapons.

At the beginning of 1914, the German Imperial Army's Ministry of War had counted the need of the Lange Pistole 08 was 209,000 pistols. Of these, 114,000 would be directed towards the needs of field artillery.

178,000 pistols were produced between 1914 and 1918. The production of pistols was discontinued at 11 a.m. on November 11, 1918, end of the first world war.

Lange Pistole 08 at the hands of the imperial German soldier. Picture: CC BY SA 3.0

Yearly production

  Vuosi DWM Erfurt all
- 1914 5 000 (161-1995a) n. 23 000 (63-9448b) 28 000
- 1915 15 000 (294-7283a) - 15 0000
- 1916 20 000 (203-2660b) - 20 0000
- 1917 90 000 (248-4884w) - 90 0000
- 1918 25 000 (105-997e) - 25 0000
      178 000

The production targets were slightly lagging behind, Erfurt stopped production only after a five-month production period. The Erfurt weapons factory was intended to supply LP.08 pistols as follows:

  • 1.8.-31.12.1914, 26 000 kpl
  • 1.1.-31.3.1915, 34 000 kpl
  • 1.4.-30.6.1915, 35 000 kpl
  • 1.7.-30.9.1915, 35 000 kpl

Production numbers of the Erfurt factory has a different types of information. Apparently Erfurt, however, produced about 22,500 to 23,000 weapons.

The weapons manufactured by DWM are marked by the manufacturer's DWM monogram, on the front joint of the toggle-lock. The weapons manufactured by Erfurt, on the other hand, bear the Erfurt crown logo.

Lange Pistole 08 received its own user manual in 1917 when the 32-round drum magazine was introduced. The instruction manual explains in detail how to fill the drum magazine and how to use it.

Weapon serial numbering

The Lange Pistole 08 has serial numbers marked in much the same way as the Parabellum P.08 pistol (Pistole P08). The serial number is marked complete (e.g. 2342) on the underside of the barrel, on the front of the gun frame and on the left side of the gun frame and on the bottom piece of the magazine. The last two digits of the serial number (e.g. 42) are marked on several small parts of the weapon, such as the lock body, the counterpart pin, the cover plate, the safety bar, the charging detector, the front of the articulated lock and the rear, the lever support, the tangent sight applicator side, trigger, and on the inside of the handle plates.

Stoeger & Co.

After the First World War, in the 1920s, the German economy fell into unprecedented inflation. The money rates collapsed, but the US market was the only growing market. DWM now continued to do so-called 7.65 mm of commercial artillery parabellum. These commercial artillery parabellums were manufactured with normal 8” barrel length, but also with 16” (double) barrel length.

The export of artillery parabellum began in 1923. An inscription was placed on the right side of the gun frame of these weapons; STOEGER Inc. NEW YORK. As of 5 October 1929, the text 'GENUINE LUGER – REGISTERED U.S. PATENT OFFICE” was placed on guns'.

In 1930, production was transferred from DWM to Mauser Werke, Oberndorf. Production continued there until at least 1934. Between 1930 and 1934, a few hundred weapons were produced in a caliber with a 9x19 Pb, 8" barrel. The serial numbers on these weapons are 1-3 digits.

French occupation after WW2

After the Second World War, Oberndorf was part of the French occupation sector. The French started the small-scale production of Parabellum pistols there at the Mauser factory, largely on the basis of already manufactured parts. The pistols were produced between 1948 and 1949, and a small number of these were artillery models (Lange Pistole 08).

W. Aulke (LP.08 + ZF 40/41)

German gunsmith W. Aulke manufactured a few mounting kits in Warendorf, attaching the 1943 ZF 40/41 Zeiss scopes to artillery parabellums. W. Aulke manufactured mounting kits between 1960 and 1970. At that time, the price of the mounting kit was 43 DM and the ZF 40/41 scope 89 DM manufactured by the Zeiss Jena plant.

Order from Persia

1934, The Persian Shah Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi (1919-1980) commissioned Lange Pistole 08 re-produced pistols from Mauser-Werke. The Persian order consisted of 1,000 pistols, with holsters and shoulder stocks. The name of the ordered weapons was model 1314 (according to Persian calendar) and all the markings on the weapons were Persian (farsi). The ordered weapons were delivered between 1934 and 1938.

Erinnerungsmodell - Commemorative model

In 1985, Mauser-Werke Oberndorf GmbH produced a special series of 250 pistols. Manufactured weapons are referred to as "Erinnerungsmodell Lange Pistole 08", i.e. the so-called “Commemorative model” weapon. The pistols were delivered in a fine leather-covered briefcase with a shoulder stock in addition to the pistol, without a leather holster. There are also no typical mounting holes for the leather holster on the shoulder stock. Inside the leather briefcase there is also a spare magazine, a tool, a cleaning rod and a certificate of authenticity (Zertifikat). The serial number of the weapon is marked in a different style, for example, L200von250, i.e. two of the 250 weapons. The weapons are also equipped with a gold-colored DWM monogram.

Gun model markings on Commemorative model (Erinnerungsmodell Lange Pistole 08)

In Finland

In Finland, the weapon has been named Parabellum m1914, Parabellum artillery pistol m/1914 and artillery parabellum. In 1918, Finland purchased about 100 artillery parabellum with a long barrel. These acquired weapons were intended for gunmen from the Artillery School in Jakobstad (Pietarsaari) during the Civil War. As of June 26, 1942, military-held weapons, shoulder stocks and holsters were stamped with an SA stamp, in accordance with headquarters maintenance order 12/1942. Comment: "I haven't seen any SA-stamped artillery parabellum, though, shoulder stocks I have...".

When soldiers from the Jaeger Battalion 27, or Königlich Preussisches Jägerbataillon Nr. 27, came back to Finland from Germany, where they got military training (and war experience). With them also returned to Finland a few pieces of artillery parabellums, possibly about 10-20 pieces. For example, Johan Jauhiainen (1895-1959) was one of these jaegers who brought their own personal artillery parabellum to Finland. Another such jaeger was K.M. Wallenius (1893-1984), who also had artillery parabellum when he returned to Finland in 1918. Marshal Mannerheim also had the Parabellum artillery pistol m/1914, which is now on display at the Mannerheim Museum.

It is likely that a small number of artillery parabellums were purchased in Finland in the 1920s and 1930s, owned by private individuals.

Lange Pistole 08 in United States

At the end period of The Second World War and at the end of the war on 8 May 1945, the American occupying forces "released" military and hunting weapons from German soldiers and even private homes. These "released" weapons also included hundreds of Lange Pistole 08 pistols. American soldiers sent weapons to the United States in the so-called “home packages” and guns (and other material) ended up mainly in private collections. Today, these weapons are shown in a lot of different arms auctions, where their prices match vary widely, mainly depending on the condition of the weapon and equipment from 2500 to 12500 USD.

US soldier Herman Stanley investigates pistols handed over by Germans when surrendering (Lange Pistole 08 in his hands) Norway 10.7.1945. Picture: US Army

Special weapon individual – DWM LP 08

The picture below shows the modified Lange Pistol 08. The gun has been soldered with silver afterwards, with a fixed rear sight (setting for a 25-metre distance), in addition to the adjustable tangent sight. At the same time, the serial number (42) on the back of the joint lock is also silver-plated. In early 1916, the initials M.W. Could this be JaegerGeneral Martti Wallenius’s gun? Whether it's Wallenius or not, the weapon has travelled to Finland in 1916-18, with the jaegers that have returned from Germany.

LP.08 equipped with the adjustable tangent sights and fixed rear sights

References

  • Artillery Luger, url: http://www.lugerlP.08.com, 17.12.2016
  • The Luger – Story of the World’s Famous Handgun, John Walter
  • The Luger Forum, url: http://www.lugerforum.com, 18.9.2010
  • Die Lange Pistole 08, url: http://www.waffensammler-kuratorium.de, 16.12.2016
  • Luger Artillery, url: http://www.lugerlP.08.com, 18.12.2016
  • Arma Fennica 2 – Sotilasaseet, Timo Hyytinen, 2002
  • Lange Pistole 08, url: http://www.historic-firearms.com, 21.1.2010
  • A list of LP.08 manufactured in Erfurt, url: https://www.luger.gunboards.com, 28.11.2019
  • Erfurt P08 lange, url: https://www.forum.axishistory.com, 28.11.2019
  • Mannerheim – aseet, url: http://www.mannerheim.fi, 28.11.2019
  • Unleitung zur langen Pistole 08 mit Anfteckbarem Tormmelmagazin, Berlin 1917
  • MaStafen zur Pistole 08 u. lange Pistole 08, I.K.B. 1913
  • The Luger, Neil Grant, Alan Gilliland and Johnny Shumate, 2018
  • 1934 Mauser Persian Contract, url: https://phoenixinverstarms.com, 19.1.2020
  • The Last Pre-WW1 DWM Prototype: The Artillery Luger, url: https://www.landofborchardt.com, 20.1.2020

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